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    Hello,

    So I checked what plug-in's where being ran on the crackhouse. I am assuming most of it is the same on the other servers besides dm and what not. I just had a few suggestions and questions as of why some plug-in's are not being ran.

    Plug-in Suggestions
    Kigen's Anti-Cheat: Click Me!
    Server Secure: Click Me!
    Hostage Health: Click Me!
    No Block Players and Hostages: Click Me!
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    No Block Players and Nades: Click Me!

    My Question
    Why does NG not run any security plug-in's like I have listed above? Server Secure is an extremely good Sourcemod plug-in. Also KAC helps catch the really crappy cheats that most players get.

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    The Hostage Health plug-in does not require you to change the models. This is a totally new one that works. I used to use it on my own servers. Works perfectly! Nice thing is you can set the amount of health or make them god mode.

    I think it would be a good idea to run either of the no block's above. They would help everyone tremendously!

    That is all I have for now. I will keep brain storming ideas for NG! I hope the above help if you decide to use any of them. If you have any questions for me please feel free to ask.

    Sincerely,



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    KAC is to bulky for our needs, requires connections and authentications to someone elses servers and removes people from our servers based on someone elses input.

    We have never left our banlist in the hands of anyone but us. The same is with steambans, the majority of bans submitted to these sites are rediculous and are no where near up to our standards, and the same goes for KAC.

    While they are great for automation, and lazy people, the good old fashioned ay of "manual labor" just does the job better and correctly. It is less efficient though :P

    Noblock is installed on numerous servers, and crackhouse is one of them

    This hostage health thing is neat, pretty sure I came across that in the past, will check into getting it on some of the servers.

    -Adam

    PS. we run *NUMEROUS* security features, some not public. We have a very close connection with many of the plugin developers We however leave all 'hacking' related shit to our physical real life admins no automation here
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    cool cool what about the nol blocks! we need that in office! and the nade one too! I have killed myself too many times from some asshat jumping in front of me when i toss a nade and end up damn near killing myself lol

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    noblock in office has been discussed numerous times, and tested a few times, and doesn't ever seemt o make the cut...Because the server is so cramped, it noblock turns more into a nuisance than a helping hand. People get stuck more, people are able to rush to fast to certain areas which kills gameplay, people are able to sit 10 fold in certain 'prime' awp spots etc..

    We are never opposed to trying new things, or looking into suggestions, this type of chat is highly encouraged :P Don't be disgruntled or sidetracked by my responses at all please

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamnp View Post
    noblock in office has been discussed numerous times, and tested a few times, and doesn't ever seemt o make the cut...Because the server is so cramped, it noblock turns more into a nuisance than a helping hand. People get stuck more, people are able to rush to fast to certain areas which kills gameplay, people are able to sit 10 fold in certain 'prime' awp spots etc..

    We are never opposed to trying new things, or looking into suggestions, this type of chat is highly encouraged :P Don't be disgruntled or sidetracked by my responses at all please
    hmmm.. guess I will just have to pray i dont nade myself anymore lol

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    Thanks for the quick reply! I agree with the whole manual labor thing. It really adds more things for the community members to do. The no block that you are running on the crackhouse is just a regular no block. I was thinking of doing a Player vs Hostage or Player vs Nade. But I will continue to think of new ideas!

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    kac isnt very useful or smart you can get banned for having a type of skin or console settings. i'm all for the less cheaters thing but kac and steam bans arent the way to go
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    I'm not a big fan of no block. On dust 2, people just get stuck in each other and pissy since they decide to hold hands for the twenty seconds that it is active. On crackhouse, noblock is nice especially when the server gets full, but it comes with issues. If someone throws a nade, it can actually get stuck in a person and still end up blowing the original user's face off (been there done that). Noblock doesn't really allow you to shoot through people nor does it allow you to get boosted to nifty spots such as the paper room shelves in office. Also, noblock doesn't stop your target from hiding inside you which actually gets very annoying. I usually get a couple players that I can't shoot because they are inside me.

    While noblock is great because you do not worry about your teammates riding your ass, it also has many set backs. For maps like dust2, office, etc, I don't think it's very useful at all unless it's on for a short time after spawning. As for the hostage health, that looks nifty. In regards to the auto-secure options, that's something admins can do. No need to get more bans going on than necessary.

    The simple solution for teammates blocking grenades is to just not throw nades when you're holding hands or to find some new angles. Or, if you want to be really proactive, just don't throw nades in situations that can potentially end very badly.
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    I would not ever use Steam Bans. That plug-in runs like crap to begin with. But I think we should have the no block Player vs Nades on the CrackHouse server. Also with the Hostage Health. Make the hostages have like 5k hp.

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    I'm all for no block on nades, try running garage rush from CT spawn in Office, if you nade that window someone's bound to jump up on the garbage can while you're throwing lol. Don't think I've actually ever killed myself this way but I know I've done around 60 damage once or twice...was pissed.

 

 
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